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Following is a letter written by a Chinese as a reaction to how the Beijing Olympics opening ceremony was covered by the Israeli channel 1 and a remark by Oren Nehari. It continues the series of posts regarding Sino-phobia in Israeli media and the use of extremely negative language against the Chinese people and government.

Dear Sir or Madam,

I am a Chinese citizen, currently staying in Israel.

Today I am very pride, since it is the BIG DAY that all Chinese people have longed for. It is the opening day of the 29th Olympic Games.

First I want to thank Israeli Channel 1 for the live telecasting. It gave me / us the opportunity to enjoy the opening ceremony together with all our people and all the world.

However the watching of the show had become an annoying and unpleasant experience for me and for my friends in Israel, due to the unbelievable hostility displayed by one of the TV commentators throughout the show. While sadly enough I got used to anti-Chinese comments of Israeli media, I could not believe that when the wonderful performance of the Taiji (ancient Chinese martial arts) went on, your commentator (whose name I did not notice) said that "the show was impressive but a little frightening, because the accuracy of the movements of the thousands of actors, REMINDS him of the Nazis…".

You cannot imagine how I and all my friends were astonished to hear this. It is disgusting and shameful that a speaker of a national TV station makes such an awful comparison, displaying his stupidity, ignorance and prejudice during the opening ceremony of the Olympics, the single event which is supposed to symbolize peace and unity of the humankind.

I am a Chinese, who studied Israeli history and culture in Jerusalem and Haifa, and now am teaching these topics in Beijing University. I live in Beijing and I know how our people do their best to show their goodwill to all the world. I know the performers have trained for more than 2 years for the shows. They tried so hard to make a perfect show, much in accordance with the traditional Chinese cultural norms. If your commentator cannot understand the beauty of the performance as an individual, I just feel sorry for him. But as a commentator on the national TV, his ugly words expressed not only his own opinion, but had a very bad impact on the image of China. He did not just hurt the feeling of an ordinary audience like myself, but also insulted the the Chinese people as a whole.

In China we cherish good relations with the people from other countries. As a teacher of Hebrew and Jewish history in the most prestigious Chinese university, I do my best to promote cultural understanding between our cultures. I – and my colleagues and students – believe despite inevitable cultural differences and differences in opinion between the Chinese and other peoples, such as Israelis, we must work hard to promote better mutual understanding, a little bit goodwill and a little bit mutual tolerance. Thus, our world can become more beautiful and peaceful.

In these days, in the West (including Israel) there are many negative reports on the TV, on the newspapers and on the internet about China, I think it is not so fair to China, but I know that it is free for everyone to express his own opinion. Though I do no agree with these opinions, but for sure I agree that you have the right to say it. But today, it went beyond all the limits.

I, represent just myself, and my Chinese friends here, want an explanation, and an apology.

Wang Yu

I agree. I responded in quite the same way to those exact same phrases. It has bothered me up to a point that I had to say something about how Israelis cover China.

The response (in Hebrew, I apologize) :

תודה על הצפייה בשידורינו.

צר לי ביותר אם נפגעת בדרך כלשהי מהדברים שנאמרו בשידור.

בדיקת השידורים העלתה שלא הייתה השוואה בין ההופעה בטקס הפתיחה לבין הנאצים, השוואה כזו כמובן אין לה מקום.

יחד עם זאת כמי שהוא מומחה לתולדות ישראל ולתרבותה אתה בוודאי יודע היטב שהישראלים כולם חיים כאן בצל הזכרונות מימי מלחמת העולם השניה ותקופת השואה, זכרונות אלה הפכו כבר לחלק בלתי נפרד מהזיכרון הלאומי הישראלי ואפילו מהזיכרון האישי של כל מי שגדל כאן שמע ולמד על גרמניה בימים האפלים ההם, ראה את מצעדיהם של הקצינים והחיילים ההם כולל סיגנון הצעידה המיוחד של הרמת רגל ישרה וידיים המגיעות עד כדי מועל יד, כמו שראינו בפתיחת האולימפיאדה בברלין ב- 1936.

התמונות האלה חיות בזיכרון הקולקטיבי של הישראלים.

הטקס בבייג’ין היה טקס מרהיב שהותיר רושם אדיר על כל צופה.  יחד עם זאת היו בטקס המרהיב הזה מרכיבים של ביצוע המוני אחיד, צעידה אחידה ומתואמת עד כדי כך שנדמה היה שהמבצעים הם חלקים מרובוט אדיר.

המראות האלה עוררו אצל צופים רבים ובהם גם השדר אורן נהרי ועיתונאים רבים אחרים – תחושות בלתי נעימות.  אם תזכור את התלונות של אזרחי טיבט ובני מיעוטים נוספים בסין וכן את חסימת אתרי אינטרנט מסויימים גם בפני עיתונאים הנמצאים עתה בבייג’ין תוכל להבין היטב את התחושות שבוטאו בשידור.

ומעל הכל מן הראוי לציון – רשות השידור היא גוף ציבורי שמחוייב לספק מידע מלא ומדוייק, השדרים אינם נציגים של מדינת ישראל ובוודאי שאינם דוברים של ממשלת ישראל, הם מספקים לציבור שירות של עיתונאות אחראית וכך יש להבין את הדברים.

לסיום עלי לשוב ולציין – השדר לא השווה את סין לגרמניה הנאצית – ואם כך הבנת את הדברים אין לי אלא להביע את צערי.

בברכה,

אלישע שפיגלמן

נציב קבילות הציבור

To which Ms. Wang Yu responds :

To Mr.Elisha Shpigelman,

Dear sir (sorry of writing in English, this is done for the sake of my compatriots, whom I cc this letter),

I do not know whether or not you meant it, but your letter strengthened my feeling of disappointment and distress. You say that there was "no comparison of the opening event to the Nazis" but later you admit that uniform performance of the Chinese actors during the ceremony "created uneasy feelings among spectators" – presumably reminding them of the 1936 Berlin games. You further say that this impression is based on the record of China’s supposed violation of the human rights. I am sorry to say, but this explanation sounds almost as disgusting as Mr. Nahari’s comments during the opening ceremony.

Throughout my career as teacher of Israeli culture and history in the Beijing University, I repeatedly told the students how sensitive the issue of Holocaust and Hitlerism is to Israelis. Comparison of the taiji (Chinese martial arts) performance to the Nazi parades is the mark of stupidity and bad taste. Stupidity, because it allows to compare any event with thousands of performers or any military parade to the Nazis – and the better organized is the event the more "Nazi" it would become then. Bad taste, because the performance which caused Mr. Nahari’s remarks was a performance of Chinese martial arts – the taiji – which are rooted in a centuries-long Chinese spiritual tradition, are defensive in their nature, and are based on meticulous personal training which allows the trainees to perform a certain sequence of movements in a very precise and uniform way. This is no more "robotical" than any dance (which can be learnt by heart by thousands of performers) – actually the taiji are extremely individual-oriented kind of training. I understand that Mr. Nahari does not know anything of this and of Chinese culture in general – but then why should you employ him to comment upon an event of which he has little if any understanding.

You mention "complains of Tibetan citizens (sic) and other minorities in China" and the limitations on the access to the internet for the journalists as somehow justifying the comparison to the 1936 Olympics. Once again I am amazed by stupidity and the lack of sensitivity – this time on your part. Whatever the opinion may be of China’s record of human rights and journalistic freedom, is it at all comparable to the Nazi Germany? I would somehow tolerate this stupid comparison in any other country – but sorry – not in Israel!!! You are supposed to be well aware of the exceptionality of the Nazi case, and I am not sure that you would like people employing similar comparisons against any country which has problematic record of human rights – you surely understand me well. You and your commentator might have believed that the Chinese are not sensitive to such hints and comparisons – but we – at least ME, as a scholar of Jewish history – ARE sensitive!!!

Finally, to clarify. For years I did my best to present Israel in China in as positive light as possible – because I respect and love this country and have plenty of Israeli friends. I know that should I publicize Nahari’s comments and your reply in my blog, it will cause huge damage to the image of Israel in Chinese public opinion. I do not want to do it – I still want to believe that the comments were stupid rather than malicious. However, your reply was extremely discouraging. Instead of apologizing for sending an unprofessional commentator to comment upon the Olympic event, you try to convince me that "there was no comparison" while also explaining why the comparison is justified in your eyes. I will not tolerate this paternalistic attitude much longer. If you and your bosses, who are cc-ed do not make a clear apology, I shall – with great pain – make the things known to the Chinese public. After all, my compatriots have the right to know how they are presented by the official broadcast company of the state which is widely respected in China and is considered a friendly nation.

Hope to hear your serious reply,

Wang Yu (am Ms not Mr)

Not good. And so it gets even more emotional. I strongly sympathize, even though I find it a bit disturbing how she proposes to to deal with the offense if she doesn’t receive an apology. With the current Chinese anti-French movement regarding the incident in France, threatening of pursuing this with the Chinese public sounds like an awkward way to go about it if we wish to address it. But, I imagine there are also some deep rooted cultural differences here. Channel 1 and Oren’s remarks represent no one but themselves, yet national cultural wars to reeducated the uneducated is the last thing we need. There are other ways to fight that. There is so much potential in the bridge between Israeli and Chinese culture that goes beyond such incidents… let’s focus on that.



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  • http://www.filination.com/blog/ Fili

    MJ – :S :(

    I’d try and avoid general statements about “China” and the “Chinese people” as much as possible and to see the important message behind this regarding how the Chinese perceive western coverage of the Chinese. There is something dangerously patronizing, if not worse, in the last two sentences you wrote.

  • http://www.thenhbushman.com/ MJ Klein

    welcome to the new China – Entitlement China, where no “infraction” of any sort is allowed. China demands apologizes for personal opinions. they get all upset over nothing, just like children. they are in fact, emotionally immature.

    • Anonymous

      您需要学习,您不缺年纪和肚皮的尺寸,您缺的是智慧。

  • http://www.thenhbushman.com MJ Klein

    welcome to the new China – Entitlement China, where no “infraction” of any sort is allowed. China demands apologizes for personal opinions. they get all upset over nothing, just like children. they are in fact, emotionally immature.

  • http://www.filination.com/blog/ fiLi

    MJ – :S :(

    I’d try and avoid general statements about “China” and the “Chinese people” as much as possible and to see the important message behind this regarding how the Chinese perceive western coverage of the Chinese. There is something dangerously patronizing, if not worse, in the last two sentences you wrote.

  • cat

    Why Ms. Wang would say:” I would somehow tolerate this stupid comparison in any other country – but sorry – not in Israel”?
    Does Fili, or any other Israeli, if he has got even a basic knowledge of the Jewish people’s miserable history during the WWII, understand the reason?

  • cat

    Why Ms. Wang would say:” I would somehow tolerate this stupid comparison in any other country – but sorry – not in Israel”?
    Does Fili, or any other Israeli, if he has got even a basic knowledge of the Jewish people’s miserable history during the WWII, understand the reason?

  • Joe

    as much as i understand why the chinese are hurt, and as much as i agree that there is a lot of prejudice etc., i am sad to say that i somewhat agree with MJ.
    i am trying not to generalize but about 90% of the chinese i’ve met to date and talked to them about this topic of western media and public opinion (and this means a few hundrends) – talk the same way.
    the discorse is not one of “you are wrong and hear us out why” but more of “we are hurt and if you don’t say sorry we will kick your ass”.
    of course, this is not unlike the way israel treats what is called “antisemitism” in europe.

    i think that it is not a case of “deep rooted cultural differences” like you hope, but another case of the old rule “they only understand force”, which seems to fit ont only in the middle east.

    (and if you think when was the last daoist ruler in china, and what happened after him – this goes well with my little theory).

  • Joe

    as much as i understand why the chinese are hurt, and as much as i agree that there is a lot of prejudice etc., i am sad to say that i somewhat agree with MJ.
    i am trying not to generalize but about 90% of the chinese i’ve met to date and talked to them about this topic of western media and public opinion (and this means a few hundrends) – talk the same way.
    the discorse is not one of “you are wrong and hear us out why” but more of “we are hurt and if you don’t say sorry we will kick your ass”.
    of course, this is not unlike the way israel treats what is called “antisemitism” in europe.

    i think that it is not a case of “deep rooted cultural differences” like you hope, but another case of the old rule “they only understand force”, which seems to fit ont only in the middle east.

    (and if you think when was the last daoist ruler in china, and what happened after him – this goes well with my little theory).

  • cat

    the discorse is not one of “you are wrong and hear us out why” but more of “we are hurt and if you don’t say sorry we will kick your ass”.
    _______________________
    If a Chinese really tries to explain why, I’m afraid 90% of the people brainwashed by the western media would not accept it at all.

  • cat

    the discorse is not one of “you are wrong and hear us out why” but more of “we are hurt and if you don’t say sorry we will kick your ass”.
    _______________________
    If a Chinese really tries to explain why, I’m afraid 90% of the people brainwashed by the western media would not accept it at all.

  • cat

    “they only understand force”

    ________

    The fact is not the Chinese only understand force, but they at last find, with great pains, that the West only understand force.

  • cat

    “they only understand force”

    ________

    The fact is not the Chinese only understand force, but they at last find, with great pains, that the West only understand force.

  • Joe

    i think i was a bit misunderstood.
    i am not blaming the chinese for they way they feel and the way they react (and i know “the chinese” is an awful generlization, but so is “the west”).

    what i am saying is that just like the west, the chinese also understand how useful it is to use force. i wrote that the slogan “they only understand force” is true to mankind. sorry if it came as an attack on china. i am trying to say that there is no essential difference between china and the west in this sense.

    i think that to blindly blame china is just as big as a mistake as to blindly defend it.

    and i know many would say that one of the reasons for the rising nationalism in china is that it at least in part a resault of all the wrongs the west has done it since mid 19th century.
    as true as that may be, we should also remember that the history of foreign policy in china (again – as well as in other parts of the world) shows that power was more in use than dialog. when the chinese were storng enough – the took what is today xinjiang, qinghai, xizang, and yunnan by force. when not – they were conquered by outsiders (weather from the steppe, or europe).

    i think that it is interesting to see the difference between israelis abroad (at least me and some i know) and the Wang Yu’s reply here.
    israelis know that a threat like this is somewhat meanningless. so although 90% of the times it is not understood, and the brainwashed european doesn’t listen – we keep trying.
    and again – not because we are better than the chinese. but because we are weak and have no choice. the rule of “force” applies to us as well, only from the other direction.

    to sum up – all i meant was that the chinese are no better and no worse than anyone else. and it is right to criticize the western media and its attitude towards china, but it is wrong to use these kind of threats.

    sorry if i was misunderstood. :-)

  • Joe

    i think i was a bit misunderstood.
    i am not blaming the chinese for they way they feel and the way they react (and i know “the chinese” is an awful generlization, but so is “the west”).

    what i am saying is that just like the west, the chinese also understand how useful it is to use force. i wrote that the slogan “they only understand force” is true to mankind. sorry if it came as an attack on china. i am trying to say that there is no essential difference between china and the west in this sense.

    i think that to blindly blame china is just as big as a mistake as to blindly defend it.

    and i know many would say that one of the reasons for the rising nationalism in china is that it at least in part a resault of all the wrongs the west has done it since mid 19th century.
    as true as that may be, we should also remember that the history of foreign policy in china (again – as well as in other parts of the world) shows that power was more in use than dialog. when the chinese were storng enough – the took what is today xinjiang, qinghai, xizang, and yunnan by force. when not – they were conquered by outsiders (weather from the steppe, or europe).

    i think that it is interesting to see the difference between israelis abroad (at least me and some i know) and the Wang Yu’s reply here.
    israelis know that a threat like this is somewhat meanningless. so although 90% of the times it is not understood, and the brainwashed european doesn’t listen – we keep trying.
    and again – not because we are better than the chinese. but because we are weak and have no choice. the rule of “force” applies to us as well, only from the other direction.

    to sum up – all i meant was that the chinese are no better and no worse than anyone else. and it is right to criticize the western media and its attitude towards china, but it is wrong to use these kind of threats.

    sorry if i was misunderstood. :-)

  • cat

    Thanks for your clarification.
    You are indeed easy to be misunderstood in your last comment.

  • cat

    Thanks for your clarification.
    You are indeed easy to be misunderstood in your last comment.

  • http://www.filination.com/blog/ Fili

    theworldsucks – as a non-Chinese who appreciates China, what you write here and the way you write is in the core of the Israeli criticism towards China. What you’re doing here, and what Mr. Wang Yu did, was to threaten those who criticize China with isolation and retaliation. To those who believe in free speech and voicing one’s opinion openly, this is unacceptable and enforces the criticism made.

    Those reporter don’t represent Israel, they represent themselves. I’m an Israeli voicing my own opinion against theirs. Furthermore, your interpretation of the sympathy China has given to Israel (which you refer to as the Jewish state) is highly controversial, as is the reporter’s remarks on China. I’m afraid this isn’t an Israeli issue – it’s a more general issue the westernize media has with China and Israel here is just an example familiar to me.

    The way to address this, would be to rethink China’s branding and work together with international media to emphasize China’s stronger attributes.

  • theworldsucks

    As a Chinese, I am profoundly shocked by general obnoxious Israeli media racist attitude hostility displayed toward china. I remember China had protected and harbored thousands Jewish refugees during wwii. And Chinese always friendly and sympathetic to Jewish cause. And this is how you reattribute to us …the shameless ungratefulness is profoundly shocking. I want to say, if news about Israel like this keep spreading in China, no more Israel will be welcomed anymore to china.

  • theworldsucks

    As a Chinese, I am profoundly shocked by general obnoxious Israeli media racist attitude hostility displayed toward china. I remember China had protected and harbored thousands Jewish refugees during wwii. And Chinese always friendly and sympathetic to Jewish cause. And this is how you reattribute to us …the shameless ungratefulness is profoundly shocking. I want to say, if news about Israel like this keep spreading in China, no more Israel will be welcomed anymore to china.

  • http://www.filination.com/blog/ Fili

    theworldsucks – as a non-Chinese who appreciates China, what you write here and the way you write is in the core of the Israeli criticism towards China. What you’re doing here, and what Mr. Wang Yu did, was to threaten those who criticize China with isolation and retaliation. To those who believe in free speech and voicing one’s opinion openly, this is unacceptable and enforces the criticism made.

    Those reporter don’t represent Israel, they represent themselves. I’m an Israeli voicing my own opinion against theirs. Furthermore, your interpretation of the sympathy China has given to Israel (which you refer to as the Jewish state) is highly controversial, as is the reporter’s remarks on China. I’m afraid this isn’t an Israeli issue – it’s a more general issue the westernize media has with China and Israel here is just an example familiar to me.

    The way to address this, would be to rethink China’s branding and work together with international media to emphasize China’s stronger attributes.

  • http://www.filination.com/blog/ Fili

    theworldsucks – what can I say? you feel what you feel, you see the truth and facts as you see them, and there’s little I say to make you see things differently. Fact is, generalizations are always a problem. I think the main issue some people have with China has to do with the government being an authoritirian state, where human rights and personal liberties are controlled to a certain extent.
    I don’t think the criticism made goes against the Chinese people as a whole, and sometimes – it’s quite the contrary, people from other countries sympathize with the Chinese people and would like to see them have a better life and a more free society. The problem starts when they interpret their own lives, usually in democracies, as being better, while I understand that some Chinese don’t necessarily see it that way and are proud of their government and country.
    I don’t suggest the Chinese people can’t take criticism, I only say that the way you responded suggests that -you- can’t. Instead of encouraging dialog and understanding you’re promoting nationalism and a sense of cultural war. Being “anti west” is a big statement, and for that I can only say that many people in that “west” have done nothing to deserve your “anti”.

  • theworldsucks

    Dear fili,I appreciate your reply and your openmind enough to apprecaite chinese culture, but your cheap 2 cents of ‘freedom of speech’ is overly redundant. If western idea of ‘freedom speech’ become a cover to racism, promoting hates and barrier to communication among the mankind, then such freedom should be put under check. You don’t want to say the thing which you won’t say to your neighbor to people of another nation. The taken is not Chinese can’t take criticism as you suggested and people of you nation believe, only if criticism based on truth and fact check, but after being west for more than 11 years, I have realized it’s not about fact and truth, it’s all about demonize china to maintain the illusion of west superiority. The sad thing is I found myself become anti west and that wasn’t the case when I was in China. And I will go back to China to tell people what the west including Israel is really about. That’s my off time doing on Chinese internet anyway.

  • theworldsucks

    Dear fili,I appreciate your reply and your openmind enough to apprecaite chinese culture, but your cheap 2 cents of ‘freedom of speech’ is overly redundant. If western idea of ‘freedom speech’ become a cover to racism, promoting hates and barrier to communication among the mankind, then such freedom should be put under check. You don’t want to say the thing which you won’t say to your neighbor to people of another nation. The taken is not Chinese can’t take criticism as you suggested and people of you nation believe, only if criticism based on truth and fact check, but after being west for more than 11 years, I have realized it’s not about fact and truth, it’s all about demonize china to maintain the illusion of west superiority. The sad thing is I found myself become anti west and that wasn’t the case when I was in China. And I will go back to China to tell people what the west including Israel is really about. That’s my off time doing on Chinese internet anyway.

  • http://www.filination.com/blog/ Fili

    Dak – I find your statements to be very biased, if not flawed. I hope you’ll forgive my historical shortcuts, but – to say that Communist China is a Confucianist society is a very problematic statement, after over half a century of self-re-education of the Chinese masses. It is only recently that the Chinese communist party is re-embracing Confucianism and promoting it within China. To say that all “evolved races” are aggressive, arrogant, greedy and ignorant is an aggressive, arrogant and ignorant thing to say. To put down their own culture while praising the Chinese is at the core of what troubles the Chinese commenting here when they feel it being done to them. Living in Taiwan, I don’t think anybody, especially the Chinese, need to learn to be a bit aggressive. If anything, we should all calm down, breath in and out, and slowly work on enhancing our cultural sensitivity and understanding.

  • Anonymous

    theworldsucks @8:28 a.m. on the 15th, appears to be bummed out that he(she) is going back to China against his (her)will. I hope they remember to bring a medical mask and bottled water. All returnees are advising me against going to Mainland- apparently Respiratory problems are common. And good luck blogging w/o censorship from the CCP.

    As usual,you were level-headed and correct,FiLi. Pay no mind to the Psychiatric Disorders.

  • mike dunn

    theworldsucks @8:28 a.m. on the 15th, appears to be bummed out that he(she) is going back to China against his (her)will. I hope they remember to bring a medical mask and bottled water. All returnees are advising me against going to Mainland- apparently Respiratory problems are common. And good luck blogging w/o censorship from the CCP.

    As usual,you were level-headed and correct,FiLi. Pay no mind to the Psychiatric Disorders.

  • http://www.filination.com/blog/ Fili

    theworldsucks – what can I say? you feel what you feel, you see the truth and facts as you see them, and there’s little I say to make you see things differently. Fact is, generalizations are always a problem. I think the main issue some people have with China has to do with the government being an authoritirian state, where human rights and personal liberties are controlled to a certain extent.
    I don’t think the criticism made goes against the Chinese people as a whole, and sometimes – it’s quite the contrary, people from other countries sympathize with the Chinese people and would like to see them have a better life and a more free society. The problem starts when they interpret their own lives, usually in democracies, as being better, while I understand that some Chinese don’t necessarily see it that way and are proud of their government and country.
    I don’t suggest the Chinese people can’t take criticism, I only say that the way you responded suggests that -you- can’t. Instead of encouraging dialog and understanding you’re promoting nationalism and a sense of cultural war. Being “anti west” is a big statement, and for that I can only say that many people in that “west” have done nothing to deserve your “anti”.

  • Dak

    Most Chinese are shocked when they stay a little well in western countries because of western media that are so hostile to China and Chinese in general. The reseaon for this is that Chinese media always benign towards westeners and Chinese people expect others do the same. Chinese people in general are not aggressive and bad mouth toward other people due to their Confucian believes. They do not abuse and curse other people with no reasons. They admire other’s acheivements and different cultures. They think all people no matter of their skin color or religous can be friends. However, this does not apply to most westeners, especially those westeners with short history and those lack of their own cultures. Those newly evolved races are aggressive, arrogant, greedy and ignorant. Buddhist, Confucian, Islamic and Hindus are oldest civilizations and they are not belong to those newly evolved races. They are benign. They do fight but with reason. They do not want things belong to other but they fight for thier own right. Chinese need to change their mind set and learn to be a bit aggressive and learn to critisize others. Not all sheeps there but there are a lot of wolves on this planet.

  • Dak

    Most Chinese are shocked when they stay a little well in western countries because of western media that are so hostile to China and Chinese in general. The reseaon for this is that Chinese media always benign towards westeners and Chinese people expect others do the same. Chinese people in general are not aggressive and bad mouth toward other people due to their Confucian believes. They do not abuse and curse other people with no reasons. They admire other’s acheivements and different cultures. They think all people no matter of their skin color or religous can be friends. However, this does not apply to most westeners, especially those westeners with short history and those lack of their own cultures. Those newly evolved races are aggressive, arrogant, greedy and ignorant. Buddhist, Confucian, Islamic and Hindus are oldest civilizations and they are not belong to those newly evolved races. They are benign. They do fight but with reason. They do not want things belong to other but they fight for thier own right. Chinese need to change their mind set and learn to be a bit aggressive and learn to critisize others. Not all sheeps there but there are a lot of wolves on this planet.

  • http://www.filination.com/blog/ Fili

    Dak – I find your statements to be very biased, if not flawed. I hope you’ll forgive my historical shortcuts, but – to say that Communist China is a Confucianist society is a very problematic statement, after over half a century of self-re-education of the Chinese masses. It is only recently that the Chinese communist party is re-embracing Confucianism and promoting it within China. To say that all “evolved races” are aggressive, arrogant, greedy and ignorant is an aggressive, arrogant and ignorant thing to say. To put down their own culture while praising the Chinese is at the core of what troubles the Chinese commenting here when they feel it being done to them. Living in Taiwan, I don’t think anybody, especially the Chinese, need to learn to be a bit aggressive. If anything, we should all calm down, breath in and out, and slowly work on enhancing our cultural sensitivity and understanding.

  • blicket

    Dak – You sir/madame just hit it out of the park! I feel sorry for the people of China because they truly are clueless to the negatively views westerners perceive towards them. On the other hand..maybe I’m glad they don’t.

    Western media’s opinions are like a$$holes…they’ve all got one. people needs to stop getting their ‘opinions’ from the media and maybe, just maybe they should form one on their own for once! maybe visit china and do some real investigation?!? oh wait is that too dangerous? I mean China is a place where they where they have ninja, buddahs, rickshaws and eat with chopsticks…chopsticks!? on no how will I eat?

  • blicket

    Dak – You sir/madame just hit it out of the park! I feel sorry for the people of China because they truly are clueless to the negatively views westerners perceive towards them. On the other hand..maybe I’m glad they don’t.

    Western media’s opinions are like a$$holes…they’ve all got one. people needs to stop getting their ‘opinions’ from the media and maybe, just maybe they should form one on their own for once! maybe visit china and do some real investigation?!? oh wait is that too dangerous? I mean China is a place where they where they have ninja, buddahs, rickshaws and eat with chopsticks…chopsticks!? on no how will I eat?

  • blicket

    Fili – I don’t think they can be anymore ‘calm’ when they don’t know even know it’s happening. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with praising one’s heretige and bashing others..this exists in every culture no matter how crummy they really are. hell look at the greeks they’be been riding that “civilization” pony till this day, brazilian-soccer, italian-food, list goes on and on (ofcourse these inaccurate generalizations said to make a point. no offence intend)..so why the F not! If you can’t fight em join em.

  • blicket

    Fili – I don’t think they can be anymore ‘calm’ when they don’t know even know it’s happening. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with praising one’s heretige and bashing others..this exists in every culture no matter how crummy they really are. hell look at the greeks they’be been riding that “civilization” pony till this day, brazilian-soccer, italian-food, list goes on and on (ofcourse these inaccurate generalizations said to make a point. no offence intend)..so why the F not! If you can’t fight em join em.

  • http://www.filination.com/blog/ Fili

    richardlee – I’m glad you feel you’ve found your opportunity. I’m sure both your university and your students will take pride in your actions. :(

    Going public is understandable, it was I who posted this a public blog in English. The issue is how we best address this – it isn’t about Israel or Israelis. I’m Israeli and I come from Israel and I don’t necessarily feel this way towards the Chinese people or the Olympics. This shouldn’t be turned into a cultural war with East vs. West or China vs. Israel, this should raise awareness to cultural sensitivity and a dialog regarding the culture exchange between the two countries.

  • richardlee

    good! we need a proper soil to cause antisemitism in China. good try! I think Chinese media is too positive about Jew and Israel. now it is the time to rectify it!
    And i don’t think Wangyu’s remarks of going public is threatening. If you think your words are right, what are you afraid of? I am also a professor of a prestigious Chinese university. I will let my students know this. this is the part i can do. free flow of information

  • richardlee

    good! we need a proper soil to cause antisemitism in China. good try! I think Chinese media is too positive about Jew and Israel. now it is the time to rectify it!
    And i don’t think Wangyu’s remarks of going public is threatening. If you think your words are right, what are you afraid of? I am also a professor of a prestigious Chinese university. I will let my students know this. this is the part i can do. free flow of information

  • http://www.filination.com/blog/ Fili

    richardlee – I’m glad you feel you’ve found your opportunity. I’m sure both your university and your students will take pride in your actions. :(

    Going public is understandable, it was I who posted this a public blog in English. The issue is how we best address this – it isn’t about Israel or Israelis. I’m Israeli and I come from Israel and I don’t necessarily feel this way towards the Chinese people or the Olympics. This shouldn’t be turned into a cultural war with East vs. West or China vs. Israel, this should raise awareness to cultural sensitivity and a dialog regarding the culture exchange between the two countries.

  • cat

    I guess Zubari will feel much wronged if he knows Channel 1 and Oren do not have to offer an apology for their words.

  • cat

    I guess Zubari will feel much wronged if he knows Channel 1 and Oren do not have to offer an apology for their words.

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  • pug_ster

    Unfortunately, there’s always antisemitism out there as well anti-Chinese out there, which others can do little about. It existed in Europe and Nazi Germany before and after WWII. The difference between what Nazi Germany did was that Nazi Germany allowed this hate to manifest toward Jews into their laws, their propaganda, and their textbooks.

    This incident where a reporter from Israel, who represents Israel’s Media, and athletes like Shahar Zubari who represents face is Israel say those hateful things towards China is kind of a troubling sign of how this parallel’s to Nazi Germany’s antisemitism is.

  • pug_ster

    Unfortunately, there’s always antisemitism out there as well anti-Chinese out there, which others can do little about. It existed in Europe and Nazi Germany before and after WWII. The difference between what Nazi Germany did was that Nazi Germany allowed this hate to manifest toward Jews into their laws, their propaganda, and their textbooks.

    This incident where a reporter from Israel, who represents Israel’s Media, and athletes like Shahar Zubari who represents face is Israel say those hateful things towards China is kind of a troubling sign of how this parallel’s to Nazi Germany’s antisemitism is.

  • abel

    Let’s all get something clear and be in agreement with many distorted facts promoted by everyone. Every river and mountain and tourist spot is polluted. I have been around Rio Grande the river known as the Great River and i will tell you if you want to swim in it and feel proud, go ahead. If you want to swim in the yellow river and feel proud go ahead. If you want to jump in the Danube and feel proud go ahead, if you want to jump in the Rhine and be proud go ahead. Amazon, Mississippi, Mongke, Nile. If you are indeed proud, go ahead and drink it everyday of your life and then you will realize it was very different than say what people drank even 200yrs ago.

    Just because your city is not located in a valley and overpopulated don’t think your city will be clean forever and is not responsible for anything, just visit your landfill and come to the reality of what human decay really looks like. Just because your cities wind blows it, sells it to another state/province, dump it underground, bury it doesn’t mean you are great and you are free of guilt, neither am I. Just because your city doesn’t have cameras everywhere doesn’t mean your government is not like any other government on this world bent on control.

    Let’s get it straight, all governance is merely for control. whether democracy or dictatorship – what they sell to you is not that much different when their purposes are the same.

  • abel

    Let’s all get something clear and be in agreement with many distorted facts promoted by everyone. Every river and mountain and tourist spot is polluted. I have been around Rio Grande the river known as the Great River and i will tell you if you want to swim in it and feel proud, go ahead. If you want to swim in the yellow river and feel proud go ahead. If you want to jump in the Danube and feel proud go ahead, if you want to jump in the Rhine and be proud go ahead. Amazon, Mississippi, Mongke, Nile. If you are indeed proud, go ahead and drink it everyday of your life and then you will realize it was very different than say what people drank even 200yrs ago.

    Just because your city is not located in a valley and overpopulated don’t think your city will be clean forever and is not responsible for anything, just visit your landfill and come to the reality of what human decay really looks like. Just because your cities wind blows it, sells it to another state/province, dump it underground, bury it doesn’t mean you are great and you are free of guilt, neither am I. Just because your city doesn’t have cameras everywhere doesn’t mean your government is not like any other government on this world bent on control.

    Let’s get it straight, all governance is merely for control. whether democracy or dictatorship – what they sell to you is not that much different when their purposes are the same.

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