Comments on: Taiwanese and foreigners : Stereotypes, assumptions, attitudes, and interactions http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/ A different look at Asia, China and Taiwan Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:41:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: John http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-79421 John Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:11:59 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-79421 Hahah.. T(h)ai where? Hahah.. T(h)ai where?

]]> By: fiLi http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78859 fiLi Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:19:04 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78859 Thanks for all the replies. I feel like there's a lot more to say on the issue. This seems a good topic, especially if we have both foreigners and Taiwanese expressing their opinions. I'll try and write more about it. Thanks for all the replies. I feel like there’s a lot more to say on the issue. This seems a good topic, especially if we have both foreigners and Taiwanese expressing their opinions. I’ll try and write more about it.

]]> By: Chloris http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78788 Chloris Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:03:22 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78788 by that 'not bad' i mean those stereotypes tags as old lady can picking, engineers, and potential in chinese teaching. well.. i think when it comes to stereotype, it really depends on personal boundries and the attitude we chose to deal with it. me personally wont care that much when i was abroad, should i be insulted when a canadian offers me some pot? (what i look like pothead?) My point is, there are all kind of material within any culture,in my cultrue might concern with beatlenuts?? Tech Geek?? Small Penis?? Flat woman chest?? (sorry please delete the line if not appropreate) we can joke about the stereotype but it is our choice to pick good material from our culture, and conbine to the best and present. An koliang offering to me? Sure. but be sure to mix them with grapjuice and sprite beforehand, better on rock *wink ) by the way since when whining become new stereotype for us (im taking notes now) sometimes i wonder have we ever thought those who asking stupid stereotype questions may come with certain freindliness behind, at least they are willing to chance a topic, but clearly you get offeneded.. wooo.. oops. The only thing that gets on my feet is they tell me they know where Taiwan is but point Thailand on map. by that ‘not bad’ i mean those stereotypes tags as old lady can picking, engineers, and potential in chinese teaching.

well.. i think when it comes to stereotype, it really depends on personal boundries and the attitude we chose to deal with it. me personally wont care that much when i was abroad, should i be insulted when a canadian offers me some pot? (what i look like pothead?)

My point is, there are all kind of material within any culture,in my cultrue might concern with beatlenuts?? Tech Geek?? Small Penis?? Flat woman chest?? (sorry please delete the line if not appropreate) we can joke about the stereotype but it is our choice to pick good material from our culture, and conbine to the best and present.

An koliang offering to me? Sure. but be sure to mix them with grapjuice and sprite beforehand, better on rock *wink ) by the way since when whining become new stereotype for us (im taking notes now)

sometimes i wonder have we ever thought those who asking stupid stereotype questions may come with certain freindliness behind, at least they are willing to chance a topic, but clearly you get offeneded.. wooo.. oops.

The only thing that gets on my feet is they tell me they know where Taiwan is but point Thailand on map.

]]> By: MJ Klein http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78749 MJ Klein Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:13:01 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78749 what about my comment Chloris? would it be insulting to offer you bing-land and a cigarette? how about some Kaoliang? how about some tissues because as a Taiwanese woman i know you're going to find something to whine about in the next 20 seconds? stereotypes are wrong and "foreigners" come from countries where they are despised and shunned. what about my comment Chloris? would it be insulting to offer you bing-land and a cigarette? how about some Kaoliang? how about some tissues because as a Taiwanese woman i know you’re going to find something to whine about in the next 20 seconds?

stereotypes are wrong and “foreigners” come from countries where they are despised and shunned.

]]> By: MJ Klein http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78748 MJ Klein Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:08:55 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78748 sure, but don't forget to offer all the males bing-lang and cigarettes. sure, but don’t forget to offer all the males bing-lang and cigarettes.

]]> By: Michael Turton http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78660 Michael Turton Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:01:47 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78660 Your accent is beautiful and I miss it, and you, very much. Michael Your accent is beautiful and I miss it, and you, very much.

Michael

]]> By: Chloris http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78641 Chloris Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:33:52 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78641 hahahaha! good ones! (in response to john's comment) i think cultral phenomenon are actually not bad for stereotype. If what you state are so, i, as a local taiwanses, would take those as compliments! Good at math, very envionmental caring, and yeah i do wanna teach chinese for living. wohoo! hahahaha! good ones! (in response to john’s comment) i think cultral phenomenon are actually not bad for stereotype. If what you state are so, i, as a local taiwanses, would take those as compliments! Good at math, very envionmental caring, and yeah i do wanna teach chinese for living. wohoo!

]]> By: John http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78609 John Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:30:41 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78609 So, is it ok to assume all Taiwanese are available for Chinese teaching, assume that if they are male they are engineers, and also assume that their grandmother is walking the streets in search of cardboard and cans? So, is it ok to assume all Taiwanese are available for Chinese teaching, assume that if they are male they are engineers, and also assume that their grandmother is walking the streets in search of cardboard and cans?

]]> By: David on Formosa http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78569 David on Formosa Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:49:48 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78569 This is a very well written article and it raises so many issues. Most Taiwanese are taught to perceive of Taiwanese society as ethnically homogeneous and therefore they automatically identify anybody that looks "foreign" as other. However, Taiwanese society is far from homogeneous. It is built on various waves of immigration over 400 years, plus an aboriginal population that was here a long time before that. The presence of "foreigners" is in no way a new phenomenon in Taiwan. I would like to think that the situation will improve for the better as Taiwan's demographic makeup is going through a period of change at the moment. However, the signs don't seem good. One of the most disturbing things is that many young children love to shout out "waiguoren" every time I walk past. They learn these habits from their parents and the problem continues... This is a very well written article and it raises so many issues. Most Taiwanese are taught to perceive of Taiwanese society as ethnically homogeneous and therefore they automatically identify anybody that looks “foreign” as other. However, Taiwanese society is far from homogeneous. It is built on various waves of immigration over 400 years, plus an aboriginal population that was here a long time before that. The presence of “foreigners” is in no way a new phenomenon in Taiwan.

I would like to think that the situation will improve for the better as Taiwan’s demographic makeup is going through a period of change at the moment. However, the signs don’t seem good. One of the most disturbing things is that many young children love to shout out “waiguoren” every time I walk past. They learn these habits from their parents and the problem continues…

]]> By: MJ Klein http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78561 MJ Klein Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:17:11 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/06/23/taiwanese-and-foreigners-stereotypes-assumptions-attitudes-and-interactions/#comment-78561 great article Fili. all of us have to deal with this bullshit, one way or another. i never have anything to do with the academic world and yet i run into this pandering crap frequently. just the other day, after i explained to a woman that i'm the boss of a trading company, she jokingly asked if i would teach her English (hao bu hao?). clearly what i had just told her did not sink in. we have to face facts that stereotypes are not only legal here, they are encouraged. great article Fili. all of us have to deal with this bullshit, one way or another. i never have anything to do with the academic world and yet i run into this pandering crap frequently. just the other day, after i explained to a woman that i’m the boss of a trading company, she jokingly asked if i would teach her English (hao bu hao?). clearly what i had just told her did not sink in. we have to face facts that stereotypes are not only legal here, they are encouraged.

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