Comments on: The small differences between studying Chinese in China and in Israel http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/ Fili's world | A different look at Asia, China and Taiwan Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:42:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: fiLi http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-71628 fiLi Fri, 09 May 2008 10:28:48 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-71628 Adam - interesting. Thanks for sharing that. It goes back that long, eh? I wonder how people in Taiwan perceived America or Americans 20 years ago. Adam - interesting. Thanks for sharing that.
It goes back that long, eh?

I wonder how people in Taiwan perceived America or Americans 20 years ago.

]]> By: adam http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-71381 adam Thu, 08 May 2008 00:04:12 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-71381 interesting, I heard that same story when I was a teenager in Taiwan, which was 20 years ago. The interesting thing about this story is, now I reflect on it, that it is quite a clever sexual innuendo story covered by their american flavor ( the names, and the stereo type of american openness ) in a still relatively conservative time. At that time, people found it funny and acceptable because the guy is quite smart and it doesn't happen in Taiwan. Oh well, it was probably translated from the states. interesting, I heard that same story when I was a teenager in Taiwan, which was 20 years ago. The interesting thing about this story is, now I reflect on it, that it is quite a clever sexual innuendo story covered by their american flavor ( the names, and the stereo type of american openness ) in a still relatively conservative time. At that time, people found it funny and acceptable because the guy is quite smart and it doesn’t happen in Taiwan. Oh well, it was probably translated from the states.

]]> By: Guido H Lizzi http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-1892 Guido H Lizzi Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:42:31 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-1892 Careful: What i referred to was "talking about these issues in a text book". My girlfriend and wife to be (this year) IS CHINESE, and my goodness!!! she's sexually amazing! And she ain't shy 'bout it at all, huh! So, "personally", as people with their close friends, etc., they're open... and they have no boundries in sexual aspect. But this is "in-doors-couple-issue". Again, I live in China, and I'm about to marry a chinese woman, so I know what I'm talking about. Careful: What i referred to was “talking about these issues in a text book”. My girlfriend and wife to be (this year) IS CHINESE, and my goodness!!! she’s sexually amazing! And she ain’t shy ’bout it at all, huh!
So, “personally”, as people with their close friends, etc., they’re open… and they have no boundries in sexual aspect. But this is “in-doors-couple-issue”. Again, I live in China, and I’m about to marry a chinese woman, so I know what I’m talking about.

]]> By: Guido H Lizzi http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-1891 Guido H Lizzi Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:37:20 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-1891 According to what I've seen here, in China -after having learned the language and the culture and habits of this big country, is that they'd NEVER put in texts this kind of stuff. The culture about this is SHY. They have another way, totally different from ours. The relationships here between men and women are handled in a totally different way from the way we do. No, they wouldn't put in a text book such things like sexual issues, sexual habits, etc. To us, this is normal (EVERYBODY HAS SEX) -so it's nothing to be ashamed of. Here the way is so not like that. A man turning back to look at a beautiful woman passing by??!! A man "flattering" a pretty lady??!! NEVER. In much cases, I wasn't able to tell that a couple ACTUALLY WERE COUPLE by their behavior. So, how did they do to reach the biggest population in the world being like this? I don't know. But here, 12-16 years old "kids" are "KIDS". Never you will find them involved in this, maybe below 16 years old guys are all virgin. So, talking in a text book about sexual issues, is out of place. It's not about regulations, neither laws, nor norms. It's just their ideology. They'd never do it. According to what I’ve seen here, in China -after having learned the language and the culture and habits of this big country, is that they’d NEVER put in texts this kind of stuff.
The culture about this is SHY. They have another way, totally different from ours. The relationships here between men and women are handled in a totally different way from the way we do.
No, they wouldn’t put in a text book such things like sexual issues, sexual habits, etc. To us, this is normal (EVERYBODY HAS SEX) -so it’s nothing to be ashamed of.
Here the way is so not like that. A man turning back to look at a beautiful woman passing by??!! A man “flattering” a pretty lady??!! NEVER. In much cases, I wasn’t able to tell that a couple ACTUALLY WERE COUPLE by their behavior.
So, how did they do to reach the biggest population in the world being like this? I don’t know. But here, 12-16 years old “kids” are “KIDS”. Never you will find them involved in this, maybe below 16 years old guys are all virgin.
So, talking in a text book about sexual issues, is out of place. It’s not about regulations, neither laws, nor norms. It’s just their ideology. They’d never do it.

]]> By: Enav Shimshi http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-538 Enav Shimshi Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:23:43 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-538 As someone who graduated at Jerusalem University and study in China right now I find this issue very intresting. I'm sure Avia's text puzzles you but I've been reading a lot of texts given by my teachers that almost half of them dealing with divorce and partners that cheating on their husband/wife, having sex outside marriage. We actually talk about that in the class, I mean, about the implications of that kind of sex on ones other partner. I think China came a long way. As someone who graduated at Jerusalem University and study in China right now I find this issue very intresting. I’m sure Avia’s text puzzles you but I’ve been reading a lot of texts given by my teachers that almost half of them dealing with divorce and partners that cheating on their husband/wife, having sex outside marriage. We actually talk about that in the class, I mean, about the implications of that kind of sex on ones other partner. I think China came a long way.

]]> By: keanu zhang http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-504 keanu zhang Thu, 09 Nov 2006 03:24:31 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-504 from my point of view, chinese people is realizing sex knowledge is a science. so these radio programs become the window to learn science. confucian influences are still in most chinese minds. people still aren't willing to talk about sex in public as the western way. from my point of view, chinese people is realizing sex knowledge is a science. so these radio programs become the window to learn science. confucian influences are still in most chinese minds. people still aren’t willing to talk about sex in public as the western way.

]]> By: fiLi http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-500 fiLi Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:32:22 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-500 Oh, I see. Cool. The differences aren't that big, I guess. Are there any Confucian influences left? or is China, in your opinion, totally converted now? Oh, I see. Cool. The differences aren’t that big, I guess. Are there any Confucian influences left? or is China, in your opinion, totally converted now?

]]> By: keanu zhang http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-497 keanu zhang Wed, 08 Nov 2006 02:42:17 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-497 right, in china there are many pulic radio channels broadcast those programs you mentioned, but normally at midnight:)the content include sex knowledge and sex psycology.chinese people can accept this way because no one can see their faces in the radio so that they feel comfortable and won't be shy to tell their stories. right, in china there are many pulic radio channels broadcast those programs you mentioned, but normally at midnight:)the content include sex knowledge and sex psycology.chinese people can accept this way because no one can see their faces in the radio so that they feel comfortable and won’t be shy to tell their stories.

]]> By: fiLi http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-495 fiLi Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:01:38 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-495 I understand. What I've been told is that Chinese (a HUGE generalization, I know) will discuss this kind of issues between themselves, with people who they are close to, but would not discuss this in public or in the media or study texts. This morning I was driving my car from Jerusalem to Tel-Aviv and two channels (103fm and 102fm) were discussing Sex for a whole hour with people calling in and asking very intimate questions. Radio night shows, especially for youngsters, are always related to the subject of Sex and relationships. The topic also got a strong boost this week with the international gay-lesbian parade due to march in Jerusalem this weekend. It's interesting, culture wise, to try to understand this difference and the Confucian perspective. I understand.
What I’ve been told is that Chinese (a HUGE generalization, I know) will discuss this kind of issues between themselves, with people who they are close to, but would not discuss this in public or in the media or study texts.

This morning I was driving my car from Jerusalem to Tel-Aviv and two channels (103fm and 102fm) were discussing Sex for a whole hour with people calling in and asking very intimate questions. Radio night shows, especially for youngsters, are always related to the subject of Sex and relationships. The topic also got a strong boost this week with the international gay-lesbian parade due to march in Jerusalem this weekend.

It’s interesting, culture wise, to try to understand this difference and the Confucian perspective.

]]> By: keanu zhang http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-490 keanu zhang Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:04:27 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-490 that will be very difficult,hehe. there are some bottom line for this kind of thing(not from government policy, but from inherited old culture). as for the sexual habit, it's complex to say which way most chinese will like, it depends on sex partner. that will be very difficult,hehe. there are some bottom line for this kind of thing(not from government policy, but from inherited old culture). as for the sexual habit, it’s complex to say which way most chinese will like, it depends on sex partner.

]]> By: fiLi http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-488 fiLi Tue, 07 Nov 2006 07:18:18 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-488 Oh, you think differently. Interesting. So let me ask you this - would a text talking about sexual issues be okay as well? Let's say a survey about Chinese sexual habits, how about sex-ed about the use of pills, STD and condoms? I'm just wondering if there are any boundaries that the Confucian society would "put" on official study texts, especially in China. Oh, you think differently. Interesting.

So let me ask you this - would a text talking about sexual issues be okay as well? Let’s say a survey about Chinese sexual habits, how about sex-ed about the use of pills, STD and condoms?

I’m just wondering if there are any boundaries that the Confucian society would “put” on official study texts, especially in China.

]]> By: keanu zhang http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-486 keanu zhang Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:54:04 +0000 http://www.filination.com/blog/2006/11/06/the-small-differences-between-studying-chinese-in-china-and-in-israel/#comment-486 in china today, I can say this way can be accepted in most places of china, not only in university but in high school as well. in china today, I can say this way can be accepted in most places of china, not only in university but in high school as well.

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